Opposition to Obama's boondoggle brain activity map project is jealousy pure and simple.
Discuss.
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Why are you trolling the choir?
Yep. It's also a huge waste of money.
Nothing to see here, move along.
Well played by our brain project cash hot tub swimming host.
And this is worse than the European foolishness, how?
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-02/how-simulate-human-brain-one-neuron-time-13-billion
It's like a new cold war but then with neuroscientists instead of nuclear physicists.
It's identical to the Euro foolishness. Meanwhile BGI is going to own our asses.
Is this map thing gonna be cooler than Brainbow, or just less practical?
How can you call it a "boondoggle" in one breath and claim any oppo is jealousy in the next?
The human genome project had a distinct and clear goal, and we know what every piece was, we just had to do it a bazillion times to get to the goal. This one...is not like that. But I can't really think of other neuroscience goals that we're *more* likely to hit, so I'm just indifferent.
How can you call it a "boondoggle" in one breath and claim any oppo is jealousy in the next?
What makes you think I can't simultaneously think it is a boondoggle but see no real objection other than jealous scientists who aren't in on the largesse?
It's a boondoggle.
Unless I get funded through it. Then it's clearly jealousy.
Perhaps the critics are salty because they didn't figure out how to secure a giant pot of money for themselves.
But really, BAM = systems neuroscience, basically (with a little mind control* on the side). Looking at what they proposed in June, all they're doing now is what they would have done anyway, but with an arguably more secure funding source.
*yep, mind control: http://empiricalplanet.blogspot.com/2013/02/bam-mind-control.html
Where's the evidence that this money is real? In order to make this happen, Congress has to appropriate the funds, right?
I assume that I'm getting like 30% of this in the form of a personal check from Obama. So I think it's great.
Seems like vaporware. So far the sole source is the NYT piece and a passing reference in the SOTU, yes?
@highdesert – might be vaporware, but as @jipkin noted, there is a review/proposal from last year: http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.neuron.2012.06.006
I love this new style of science proposals. Fuck NIH panels and peer review all together. Just whoop up your idea to politicians and the press.
I *am* jealous. It's an awesome idea. Just wish it wasn't so selfish. You and I and everyone else sensible knows damn well the 3 Billion is ultimately going to come at the expense of real science. Even if congress grants some special appropriation now, it still means biomedical science -- and neuroscience in particular -- goes to the back of a very long line. Next time NIH asks for a general increase, those politicians will remember. How's that brain map coming, they'll say.